How much do you know about Brazil?
Published: April 23, 2009 18:50 ET in The Americas
NEW YORK — If you’re a typical American, you probably think the capital of Brazil is Buenos Aires.
Sorry, I mean, if you’re the Brazilian caricature of a typical American, you probably think that.
Brazilians are hardly the only people on earth to turn myth into fact, but they are quite skilled at it, especially when the rumor at hand involves outsiders misunderstanding them. Many Brazilians are still convinced that American textbooks show the Amazon under United States and United Nations control, even though that hoax was disproved years ago. And every Brazilian knows someone who has come home from Florida or Texas or Nebraska with a story — the same story — about the American who was surprised to hear Brazilians wear shoes.
Those, at least, may be based on general American misperceptions of the world. But there’s something particularly oddball about the Buenos Aires rumor. Americans are certainly not the world’s foremost geography geniuses, but thinking the capital of Brazil is Buenos Aires is like thinking that 10 times 10 equals 47, instead of much more logical wrong answers like 20 or 1,000.
So, on a recent trip to New York, I spent an afternoon conducting an informal poll of as diverse a crowd of 50 Americans as I could come up with, mostly tourists visiting Battery Park and Times Square. The primary challenge was to name the capital of Brazil; if they did not know, they were encouraged to guess.
The results:
Don’t know: 16
Sao Paulo: 13
Brasilia: 8
Rio de Janeiro: 8
“Not Rio de Janeiro”: 1
La Paz: 1
Chile: 1
Paraguay: 1
Brazil City: 1
As expected, few knew the correct answer (Brasilia). But most of the incorrect answers were perfectly reasonable: Maintaining “I don’t know” under pressure to guess is an admirable demonstration of knowing your limits. Sao Paulo, in second place, is also a smart wrong answer: It is the biggest city in both Brazil and South America. And Rio de Janeiro is an even smarter one — it was the capital until 1960.
In fairness, Buenos Aires did come up three times. A 23-year-old from Minneapolis said “Buenos Aires … no, that’s Argentina,” before registering an “I don’t know.” One couple’s adolescent son piped up with a Buenos Aires guess after his parents had registered one Rio and one Paraguay.
The third mention came when a man I stopped in Times Square turned out not to be American, but Andre Moreira da Cruz, a 24-year-old Brazilian living in the United States. I told him what the survey was about and asked him to take a stab at the top answer. “Buenos Aires,” he said, without hesitation.
But why? Where does this rumor come from?
Moreira da Cruz and a companion visiting from Brazil thought it might have emerged from the 1997 movie "I Know What You Did Last Summer." They recalled a scene in which a character who had the chance to win a trip upon guessing the capital of Brazil responded with "Buenos Aires."
Close. The quiz actually occurs in the 1998 sequel, "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer," and the character (Karla, played by Brandy Norwood) guesses Rio — and wins the trip anyway.
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What I can't understand is
What I can't understand is why the English-speaking world insists on spelling Brasil...with a "z".
When did that custom start...and isn't it about time...to end it?
Lex Wadelski
Austin, Texas
Actually, Brazil used to be
Actually, Brazil used to be called Brazil with a 'z' by Brazilians, but the spelling was probably changed to reflect differences in the portuguese of Brazil from Portugal's. I don't know the exact time, but I've heard it came right after the fall of the empire in 1889. So, it went from being the Empire of Brazil to Estados Unidos do Brasil (United States of Brasil, which is not the official name anymore).
At least during the first
At least during the first years of the Republic, and well into the early XX century, the country´s name was written, in Portuguese, as "Brazil". This can be verified in all original and official documents from that era.
To my knowledge, the first official use of the graphy "Brasil" was in 1916 when the new Civil Code was promulgated. However, for the next two decades there was a great confusion on which one was the right orthography - Brasil or Brazil. This was officially solved in 1931 in the Luso-Brazilian Orthographic Agreement.
Thanks for doing this. The
Thanks for doing this. The results were surprising. I'm Brazilian and grew up in NY. NYers are pretty savvy, and I think overall the tourists who come to NY are also more in tune with the world at large. So I wonder how different the results would be if you had quizzed 50 random people elsewhere.
Seth, I have enjoyed and to
Seth, I have enjoyed and to some extent related to everything you have written from Brazil. My wife is Brazilian and I lived there from Jan 2001 until Oct 2003 (visited several times previous and my Portuguese is fluent). The things people assumed there about the United States were at times annoying, at times infuriating and still other times humorous. Hard to take it in stride all the time.
Regarding the geography question, although it is true Americans seem to lack in this regard, I wonder why Brazilians think we should know so much about their country. In general, they really don't know that much about the United States. There are roughly 200 countries in the world. Does any Brazilian know the capitals of all of them? I'm sure someone does, but that isn't common knowledge.
Keep up the excellent writing. Sheds light on life in Brazil for Americans and others.
If you had asked this
If you had asked this Minneapolitan, I would have answered Brasilia. And then to show off I would have said Rio de Janeiro before that, and Salvador before that. I heard someone say once that Brasil is number two in everything, but no one seems to know it. It continues to surprise me how true I find this. If you asked what the largest city in the Southern Hemisphere is, I doubt many people would know it's São Paulo.
Doug Hamlin
Minneapolis
Ask a Brazilian how many
Ask a Brazilian how many states Brazil has (26 plus the federal district, Brasilia)...in the ten years I lived in Brazil, I only met two Brazilians to correctly answer the question. Another funny thing: I remember thumbing through a school geography book. The chapter about the disparity between the northern and southern hemispheres, the line delineating the north and south, took a severe dip under Australia to place it in the northern hemisphere.
Sorry but, Actually, you must
Sorry but, Actually, you must have looked at the wrong map. I know these books for a long time, I'm in the last year of High School in Brazil. This map shows the countries of First World and Third World, designation created by North Americans during the cold war, and whose stood remain until the last denomination of 'Developed, Under Development and Underdeveloped' countries.
Nice. I've always liked that
Nice. I've always liked that story about Reagan. I remember reading that, the next day, one of the papers ran the headline "The people of Bolivia welcome the President of Canada".
stories about Reagan is my
stories about Reagan is my favourite to!!
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Seth, I lived for one year,
Seth,
I lived for one year, back in 1989, in the country side of Vermont (if Vermont has anything other than countryside), and it was really annoying when people asked me if we had elevators or if we saw monkeys on the streets.
I must confess that nobody ever questioned me if the capital was Buenos Aires, perhaps because they had the slightest idea that Buenos Aires even existed, but this was back in Vermont.
Perhaps what heppens is that most of the Brazilians tend to judge or compare themselves based on someone's economical power, and when we do this across borders this may be very well misleading. Chances are that the average American could have been to more places than the average Brazilian, just because Americans have more means to travel. So when perhaps a mason (to give an example - let's say somebody uneducated) travels to Brazil, the Brazilians who CAN travel think we are talking about the social extract, when we aren't. A Brazilian mason wouldn't have the means to own a bicycle, alas travel to another country.
So I believe that whole prejudice comes from twisted comparisons, because only cultured Brazilians have the means to travel (mid-class up - and when I mean mid-class I mean College Degree), while in the US perhaps this isn't a widespread truth, because more uneducated people have much higher income than very educated people in Brazil.
Interesting article! Funny
Interesting article! Funny and at the same time sad, I thought we all learned basic geography in 2nd grade.. in defense of Americans if you did the same poll in Ibirupuera Park in São Paulo I'll bet the winning response would be Miami is the capital of Estados Unidos and it is in the state of California. Lula has probably made more funny ridiculous statements then any Brazilian president in history, Brazilians joke about them the same way we did with Bush. In defense of the Washington post Sao Paolo isn't bad at all, the Spanish speaking countries call it San Pablo, in Brazil you'd be incorrect if you wrote Sao Paulo instead of São Paulo. In Português (Portuguese) its Brasil com s, and Nova Iorque (New York) and Estados Unidos (United States).