Eat a dog, catch rabies?

A disease outbreak leads to new questions about a widespread Chinese culinary practice.

By Kathleen E. McLaughlin - GlobalPost
Published: June 2, 2009 17:21 ET
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“Dogs are the main reservoir for human rabies, and the raising, butchering, processing and consumption of dogs should be regulated and controlled,” the researchers in Vietnam wrote.

In China, nobody is quite so open about the dog-meat trade and its potential dangers, likely because it’s so culturally sensitive. Even the most diehard fans know the habit is frowned upon elsewhere. Though there are no clear numbers, Robinson’s group estimates that 18 to 80 million dogs are eaten every year in China.

Chinese scientists investigating the rabies problem were reluctant to talk about the dog-meat issue, saying only that large dog farms create special hazards.

A recent Chinese study also mentions two separate cases of human rabies infection in this country among people who were infected while butchering or handling dog carcasses. In that study, published by medical researchers in the journal “Vector-Borne and Zoonotic Diseases,” researchers noted that the vast majority of rabies cases occurred in rural areas, and were mainly contracted through dog bites in places where dog farming and ownership is unregulated. In other words, the Pekingese pups of Beijing and Shanghai are not likely to morph into Cujo.

The solution, since Chinese diners don’t appear willing to give up dog meat any time soon? Education and vaccinations, plus more pressure, Robinson said.

Still, she said, “No government in the world has devised ‘humane’ methods of raising and slaughtering dogs and cats en masse and, if we were to endorse this route, we would undermine decades of work by welfare groups in other countries of Asia who have successfully brought the consumption of dogs and cats to an end.”

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Posted by Dr_Zinj on June 3, 2009 06:41 ET

Easy to say there are a million moral and ethical arguments against eating dogs; but that's a gross exageration. There are no more arguments against eating a dog than there are for eating a cow, a pig, a goat, or a chicken.

We are not talking about killing and eating a family pet. You don't slaughter and eat your pets because they exist for emotional benefit. Pets learn to trust, empathize, and interact with their human owners. But animals farmed for meat don't fall in that category. A dog raised in a pen, or free range, on grains for most of it's life, kept disease free, and then properly butchered and cooked, is just as tasty as any other animal.

It's real easy as a well-fed westerner to point at someone from China, or a third world nation, and tell them it's wrong to eat a dog, or a cat, a guinea pig, or a rat. However, these animals are important sources of protein for these people. Protein absolutely necessary for proper development and functioning as humans at our optimum levels. Take away those sources of protein and you are deliberately condemning those people to functioning at a subhuman level.

Posted by john649 on June 3, 2009 13:47 ET

your wrong, there ARE a million moral and ethical reasons against your own pets, in addition to eating goats, pigs, cows and chickens. For starters a lot of these so called pets are stolen from chinese owners who are devastated when they discover their pets have been taken for slaughter. You only have to read the many stories posted by chinese families horrified at this practice and are trying to stop those who have no ethics.
And to say that pets no longer have emotions or experience sentient feelings because you lock them up in a cage so it relieves you of the guilt of killing someones future pet is barbaric thinking.
And it is NOT just westerners who are pointing fingers at this inhumane, horrific practice, it is your own chinese brothers and sisters who are outraged as well.

Also, contrary to your misguided belief
"Protein absolutely necessary for proper development and functioning as humans at our optimum levels. Take away those sources of protein and you are deliberately condemning those people to functioning at a subhuman level."

Absolutely no one is going to die if they don't eat dogs, your misrepresenting this issue. The best source of protein is from plant food where you get a complete protein source without the hazards found in meat, diseases such as rabies nor engage in the practice of torturing innocent animals. For those that are functioning at a sub-human level, it is because you are slaughtering dogs. If you want to stay healthy then start growing your own food instead of killing sentient beings.

if you truly want to see the horrors you are supporting you need to watch these videos....
http://revver.com/video/917934/chinese-dog-and-cat-markets/

Posted by Ooooo on September 19, 2009 11:41 ET

People of this world simply stop hurting and eating animals!

Posted by monkeyking on June 3, 2009 15:35 ET

Many Chinese are vegans, including my wife and her mother. China is famous for vegetable protein. Soybeans,

Posted by T1 on June 4, 2009 08:09 ET

Dr Zini is making the usual argument that a dog is 'just another animal'. In doing this he reveals himself to be an ignoramus.
The relationship between humans and dogs may well be older than civilization itself. And it was always a partnership. Dogs were and have been the guardians and friends of man, and to this day are loyal and intelligent creatures that perform many vital roles in society. They are also unquestionably true companions as any dog owner with half a brain can attest.

To eat dogs is as disgusting as cannibalism and a treacherous betrayal of the ancient relationship we have with these noble animals.

Posted by Dr_Zinj on June 5, 2009 13:09 ET

Oh, I doubt very much that I'd qualify as an ignoramous. I at least have the virtue of having several college degrees AND the background of having actually lived for extended times in those countries where they eat dogs, and not just read about it or vacationed there.

Dogs are most definately NOT the guardians and friends of man; unless they have been trained to be so. A dog without proper socialization from birth is not only just another animal, it's a dangerous and unpredictable animal. One only needs to pick up a paper and read about the canine attacks on people to see that.

Loyal? Only to its pack. In a socialized, family pet, it's the family members that the dog identifies in that role. Intelligence is not a valid criteria for refraining from killing and consuming. Pigs are arguably more intelligent than dogs, yet we eat them every day; and in many cases have them as domestic pets.

Don't get me wrong. I like dogs. I think they make great family members. And in the words of Geena Davis as Mrs Little in Stuart Little, "We do not eat family members." But a farm bred and raised dog is not a family member. It's a fairly tasty source of meat protein. Something to remember if you're ever out of work and homeless long enough to overcome your severely biased cultural conditioning.

Posted by T1 on June 6, 2009 05:53 ET

Having 'several college degrees' does not exclude you from being an ignoramus on the subject of dogs Dr Zini. And living in the countries where people eat dogs does not make you any more enlightened with regard to the relationship between humans and dogs, that dates at least as far back as the Neolithic period and possibly before.
There is strong evidence that dogs lived with forest dwelling humans in a symbiotic relationship in which dogs provided the usual guardian role, in return for scraps from the human hunted animals. Dogs are also IRREPLACABLE team members in any hunt, a subjct on which your college degrees have left you utterly ignorant too.
We in the West have known and trusted dogs a lot longer then we have known the Chinese, and anyone who has owned a dog knows that a dog immediately assumes the role of guardian and will protect the home and the family even at the cost of it's own life. You say that dogs are 'only loyal to family members'.
Well I would ask, who are YOU loyal to?
As far as intelligence goes, no you are quite right, that is not the measure of an individual, as the highly intelligent human beings of despicable character so amply demonstrate.
It is true that dogs will injure humans, but then so will humans.
Your arguments are specious and irrelevant, because I repeat, the special status of dogs is obvious, except to people like yourself who just don't get it.
Eat that instead, smartass.

Posted by Dutch on June 5, 2009 17:34 ET

Chickens, beef cattle and so on are not seen as companion animals. We see dogs and cats as companion animals and dog farming in the same light as puppy mills in the US. I don't feel the same way about guinea pigs, though I've had them as pets. Find some other source of protein, like fish, or chicken.

Posted by Dr. Rosset on October 12, 2009 13:27 ET

It is entirely wrong to say that the best protein source comes from a plant as that is not true with regard to omnivores. One out of every five adults cannot secure this plant protein as they cannot digest the gluten that comes with that protein. You have to face facts and that is biologically human beings are omnivores and it is dangerous for the vast majority of people to eat a strict vegan diet. You can and will do irreparable damage to your brain and internal organs by following a strict vegan diet over a long period of time. We already know from cults that the first step to controlling the mind is to starve the body of protein. Yes, you can eat a strict vegan diet and not die as not everyone is alike, but many small children die every year from the lack of protein from meat and many more thousands of children die from eating plant based protein due to the gluten. Cultural differences abound around this world and for you to show a lack of respect to another culture is wrong on so many levels. Your view that the dog as a species should not be eaten is your cultural biase, just as is not eating horse although the Europeans find horse meat very good to eat. This animal rights business is an attempt to put people not on a higher plane or even a level plane with animals who will eat anything, but at a lower level by telling this species the human species that it cannot eat anything but plants. You attempt to make people feel emotionally guilty that they eat meat by selling the public on sentient being theory. But what are you going to do when you use pain as a line in the sand for what we can and cannot eat. It is not a good standard since it does not take into account the needs of human beings and it is a false one because based upon that standard we can and have proved that plants feel pain. They scream upon the approach of the knife and scream louder when cut. Just because it takes a special sound detection system for the human being to hear it does not mean plants do not feel pain or know pain is coming which my friend is more than the animal knows and understands. It is your belief system and this article is about controlling what others believe by implying rare occurrances are common in eating such meat. It is all about not eating sick or down animals is the real point. This is basically a new religion and not everyone believes in it. The real problem for America is the hero adrenaline junkies who are "rescuing" feral dogs from other countries that have rabies and other parasites not found in the US. They bring these rabid or diseased dogs back to this country and place them with families. This has and is happening more frequently since rescue groups skirt quarrantine and only keep these animals for 48 hours before "adopting" them out to the unsuspecting public. Now we have canine rabies back in the US and many more parasites we never had before. This kind of do gooderism is devastating to the wild animals in this country who have no immunity to these tropical diseases and parasites. We have no way of stopping heart worm from getting into the wild animal population which was brought in via vietnam and now we have canine rabies coming in from India and Asia in very uncontrolled situations. Do you know where that puppy came from you just adopted? Probably not as most east coast states are now shipping in from out of the country thousands of small dogs and puppies in the past year alone. Over a hundred thousand feral dogs have been shipped in in the last five years and this is increasing. We know were the purebred dogs come from as those kennels are inspected and the majority of those are in Europe. But these feral strays coming in from Iraq, India, Mexico, and Asia carry with them diseases we don't even know how to combat. These are not lost pets in these countries they are wild dogs roaming the country eating garbage or the dead children lying alongside the roads. I have seen these dogs tearing apart the dead in the rural areas where people are starving to weak to bury their dead. Instead of worrying about dogs you should be focusing on the children in these countries.
We do not allow other animals into this country without knowing where they come from or have been and we should not be allowing these rescue groups to fly in such diseased wild dogs as the damage to the public and to the dogs already born in this country let alone the wild animals is devastating. There are also a million moral and ethical arguments to keep these dogs out of the US and also to use them as a source of protein in countries where such practices can keep people from starving to death. One little aspect the animal rights people fail to tell everyone is that there is not enough land to feed everyone on plant material. Animals actually eat and digest stuff we cannot eat or digest thus manufacturing protein in their bodies that we can digest. That is biology and philosophy cannot get around biology.

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